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Wednesday / 09.20.06 / 07:27PM / Joe / all entries in Slashdot Comment History

Background: What is it about Nintendo's proliferation of franchises that turns any calm discussion into a deathmatch? Here's another example of me blistering the hides of the mealy-mouthed bottom feeders who attack Mario while lining up for the midnight launch of Halo 2. This is from about a year ago, back when the Wii was being quaintly referred to as the "Revolution." I love it when people get all full of themselves and post stuff that is flat-out wrong. Complete original discussion here.

The only way...
by transmetal (Score: 2, Interesting)

The only way Nintendo could get me even slightly excited for their new system, is the promise of "new" games. Not remakes, nor sequels. Among their big Gamecube titles, which were not simply another title in a twenty year old series? I like Mario as much as the next gamer, but it wouldn't hurt for them to come up with something new this time around.

Re:The only way...
by StocDred (Score: 3, Insightful)

Among their big Gamecube titles, which were not simply another title in a twenty year old series?

Why is that your only criteria for judging whether a new game is worth your time? Too many times burned by Sonic, Crash Bandicoot and Tomb Raider? Nintendo sequels are far more likely to maintain quality than other franchises.

But if you're still going to be picky, how about Pikmin, WarioWare*, or Animal Crossing**? All are new concept first-party games that premiered this generation. What about the upcoming Mario light-action sports titles (baseball and soccer), or are they already declared DOA simply because Mario is in them? Have a DS for Nintendogs?

*yes, I know WarioWare has bloody Wario in it, but I'm not calling that reason enough to declare it a remake or sequel.

**yes, I know Animal Crossing was originally a Japanese N64 title.

Re:The only way...
by stonecypher (Score: 1)

Pikmin, WarioWare*, or Animal Crossing**

You're one for three. WarioWare debuted on the GBA, and alsomade it to the n64. Animal Crossing also hit the GBA. How WarioWare, which is just a themed no-board Mario Party, which itself is just a new Panic!, is a "new concept" is beyond me. Pikmin you can make the argument for, though I see it as just another automaton game like Lemmings. Mario Baseball started on the NES, and Mario Tennis on the SNES; besides, I'm not sure how you think Baseball and Tennis ratify a point about Nintendo churning out old material. Oh, and Nintendogs is an old, old idea; it was dead for ten years, but was popular again recently as Tamagatchi, Dogz or Creatures, depending on your scale of complexity. That said, the earlier raiser I'm aware of is Little Computer People, by EA back in the late 70s or early 80s, which you now know as the "revolutionary" game The Sims.

Also, to my amusement, all three of the games you named have sequels.

Re:The only way...
by StocDred (Score: 1)

And you're a moron who cowardly waits a week to reply. I suppose you were out of town.

So what if WarioWare debuted on the GBA? The point is you were asking for new IPs, and WarioWare is a very recent creation. And likening it to Mario Party is idiotic. You have clearly played none of the games in either series. And WarioWare was never, ever an N64 game.

Animal Crossing was not a GBA game, you are, again, a moron. The closest Animal Crossing got to the GBA was the connectivity bonus coming out of the GameCube game itself.

And somebody enlighten me about an NES Mario Baseball, because I don't think you have any idea what the fuck you're talking about. And about tennis, I didn't mention it. I quoted soccer, based on the upcoming Super Mario Strikers, which I believe to be the first time Mario has played soccer. Again, somebody let me know. Maybe you're right, but your abundance of other errors leads me to think you're not.

I guess you've played Nintendogs already and have discovered nothing new in it. It's just a Tamagotchi. Sure it is. Is your position really that a new game must contain 100% entirely new EVERYTHING in order for you to consider it? Then I can confidently predict that you will never play anything ever again. Give me an example of ANY new game you like that you can't find some detail that wasn't already done before.

Sequels? Of course there are sequels, they are all good games. Your original complaint was that Nintendo isn't doing enough to introduce new IPs. There's three new IPs that have all been successful to one degree of another, to the point that they earned sequels. (But again you have it wrong. The Animal Crossing sequel isn't out yet, and it's a DS game.)

You are, simply, yet another anti-Nintendo ass who is desperately searching to justify your irrational hatred. Come on now, Pikmin = Lemmings? Yeah, you can namedrop games from 20 years ago, but you're no gamer.

 

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